Market Blog - Written by Doug Winter on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 13:39 - 7 Comments
Where Have All the Nice Coins Gone?
This has been one of the “driest” times in the coin market that I can recall in terms of availability. While I have bought and sold some pretty remarkable coins so far in 2009, it has been a source of wonderment to me how few choice, interesting pieces have been available this year. And I don’t see this changing anytime soon. Why is this?
I’m not certain that there is a “right” answer to this question. Being a serious ruminator, I have thought a bit about this and have some suggestions as to why we are currently experiencing the Great Coin Famine of 2009.
1. Large numbers of coins have been conserved, dipped, processed and generally monkeyed around with in the past few years. In fact, I think the number of coins that have gone from choice and original to bright-n-shiny (or, at the very worst, from decent to ugly) is far greater than anyone realizes. You know how you read the depressing articles in the newspaper where they tell you the number of Sumatran tigers in the wild has suddenly dropped to fewer than 100 because of aggressive deforestation? I think we have seen a similar situation happen with many series of U.S. coins. Really nice coins that were once accepted as being relatively available aren’t as available anymore because most of the “nice coins” aren’t so nice anymore.
2. Good coins are in strong hands and now that the economy seems to be better than it was in September 2008, people aren’t panic sellers anymore. Let me expand this thought. After people’s stock portfolios dropped dramatically in late 2008, you saw some collectors (primarily newer ones) quickly and dramatically sell large portions of their collections. But many of the collectors who had been in the coin market for a longer period of time did not panic and did not sell. (They may not have been actively buying, either, preferring to be in a “hold” position…) A year later, many of these individuals have seen their stocks rise and they are no longer feeling as worried about their investment as before. In my experience, the strong collectors of pre-2008 are more active than they were six months to a year ago and this has taken more nice coins off the market.
3. The market for nice coins is broader than most people imagine. Because of the Internet, there are more people selling more coins to more collectors. That’s not even mentioning the incredible growth of Heritage and Ebay in the last five years; two firms that have the ability to sell a tremendous amount of coins.
4. With very few exceptions, the old-time collections of coins from the 1940’s, 1950’s and 1960’s are well-dispersed and, with them, the concentrated numbers of high quality coins has dissipated as well. If you look at auction sales from the 1970’s and 1980’s it was not uncommon for firms like Stack’s, Superior and Bowers and Merena/Bowers and Ruddy to routinely sell very cool collections of coins that had been assembled years ago. Today, these collections are almost never seen.
Will the Where Are the Nice Coins scenario change any time soon? I’m afraid not. I would expect to see some more interesting coins become available during major auctions like FUN and ANA but I think the era of abundant interesting coins is disappearing about as quickly as the aforementioned Sumatran tigers.
7 Comments
Doug,
You are 100% right! This is a GREAT article!
Hi Doug,
I also agree. It’s hard to find a collection of nice coins.
I recently bought a collection of Charlotte gold coins mixed, uncertified, 48 scarce dates all range XF to AU condition (some the same date). I will get these certifed within a few weeks. Also I bought a full, original Uncirculated roll of 1914-D cents. All but the outside 2 are red.
Larry Jackson
While your perspective of the coin market may very well be valid there are many collectors like myself who do not have the deep pockets needed to dwell in your stratosphere. I have been able to find virtually all of the coins I have been lacking this year. Of course, I haven’t always had the money to purchase them but they have been available. Perhaps you can “return to your roots” and consider the small time collector who has continued to complete collections even during the economic downturn. Not every coin or coin collection needs to be “unique” or “fresh”. Many of us thoroughly enjoy our collections of Mercs, Walkers, and Peace dollars without any thought of their freshness or uniquesness. After all, isn’t coin collecting about what appeals to you and not necessarily how long its been off the market???
I enjoy reading your commentarys but at this point I must stand up for the common collector and say that I think these are the best of times for collectors like me. Perhaps if I win the lottery I will have more empathy for your position. I wish you the best Ron
Does that mean I should keep the coins I have put away even longer?
Think of all the good coins ruined by staple scratches from 2X2′s, by spittle or fingerprints, all due to careless handling over the decades.
This article raises some very good points.
First of all I completely agree that many formerly nice original coins have been ruined by dipping then encapsulated by PCGS and NGC. I wonder why do these supposed top tier companies slab cleaned coins???
Second it’s true that many of us can’t afford five six and seven figure coins, however I can appreciate them even if I think it’s kind of silly to tie up hundreds of thousands of dollars in little hunks of Gold, Silver and copper.
I have to wonder how rare uncirculated 1914-D pennies are if someone just bought a complete roll of them and 48 of them are red unc coins??? Trends on these are $5,000 plus for red and brown uncs and $10,000 plus for full red coins so I guess it’s easy to come to the conclusion that these coins are way overpriced.
I hope the answer is people are returning to the buy and hold principle – view the coin for its beauty and historical valve, not just as a marketable security. Build a collection, regardless if its an EF or the finest known and hopefully past it down to a family member who shares the passion and will build upon it.





Laura Sperber - Oct 7, 2009 05:57 pm