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Market Blog - Written by Doug Winter on Monday, April 25, 2011 11:50 - 5 Comments

Is it a Widget?

One of the newer catch-all coin terms that’s been making the rounds is “widget.” This is a derogatory term meaning a coin that is common, boring, and lacking in character. I would primarily characterize a widget as something that is generic in nature. No one goes out and says “I’m putting together a collection of widgets,” but then again, the definition of this term seems a bit vague to me.

I thought it might be helpful to take a random array of United States gold coins, describe them and posit as to if they qualify as widgets or non-widgets.

1. 1905 Quarter Eagle Graded MS65 by NGC. Even though this is in theory a relatively scarce coin, I think it qualifies as a widget. It has no real character to speak of and it is a coin that lacks any real collectors as end-users. I think that in order for a coin to be considered as a non-widget it has to have a solid collector base as opposed to being an investor-dominated type or series.

The exact same coin with some cool mint-made copper spots or extremely deep Prooflike fields becomes more interesting. A 1905 quarter eagle in MS65 with exceptional multi-hued color or one that is designated by NGC as being DMPL is actually not a widget.

2. The same coin but in MS63, raw and enclosed in an old presentation box with a note that reads “To Son, with love from your father Xmas 1905.” The presentation box makes this a unique item and gives it character. So, I’d have to say that this coin, even though it is worth less than the coin mentioned above, is not a widget.

3. 1859-D Quarter Eagle, Graded VG-8 by PCGS. Yes, its a low grade coin. But it is scarce in any grade and the fact that it is a Dahlonega quarter eagle that somehow circulated for years makes it (at least to me) fascinating. It is clearly not a widget.

4. 1859-D Quarter Eagle, Graded MS61 by PCGS. Sounds like a cool coin, right? But what if said coin is covered with deep artificial color and it looks like the Deep Southern first-cousin to a Cheeto? Is it a widget? This is a tough question to answer. I would personally say that it is not a widget but at the same time it is not a coin that a connoisseur would want to own. It may actually look nice after being conserved. But I would have a hard-time calling this coin a widget.

5. 1927 St. Gaudens Double Eagle, Graded MS66 by NGC. High grade, pretty coin, etc. etc but still the ultimate widget.

6. Same coin, same grade but now with a CAC sticker. Here’s another tough call. The CAC sticker shows it is a nice coin for the grade and I doubt if 10% of all the 1927 Saints that have been sent to CAC have been approved. But its still a widget, albeit an accurately grade one.

7. Same coin, same grade, same CAC sticker but now in an old green label holder. I’d vote that the coin while “witget-y” is no longer a widget. The old PCGS holder gives it some character and, all of a sudden, a level of demand that wouldn’t exist if the coin were in a fresh, new holder.

8. An 1861-D gold dollar with a hole at 12:00. I’m not a fan of damaged coins and a gold dollar with a hole in it ranks pretty low on my list of coins to buy for inventory. But the rarity of the 1861-D makes it deisrable in virtually any grade. If the hole were small and not not overly crude and I could still see the date and mintmark, I’d buy this coin (as long as it were reasonably priced). It is most definitely not a widget.

9. A recently conserved PR66 Indian Head half eagle. Even though this is an expensive ($40,000+) coin, it is a coin whose value is predicated more on its appearance than on its grade. I would rather own a PR63 Indian Head half eagle with nice original color but a few shiny spots than a PR66 with no semblance of originality.

One of the points I’m trying to get across here is that a coin can be worth $50 and be a cool, numismatically desirable item while another coin can be worth $100,000 and be an expensive widget.

What are some coins that are expensive that you feel are widgets? And what are some inexpensive coins that you find to be very interesting and far from widgethood? Leave some comments below and let’s talk widgets!



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ryk - Apr 25, 2011  12:04 pm

DW, I am careful about throwing the “W” word around, as it sparks the ire of many fellow collectors. I also hesitate to generalize. Even in your first example, the 1905 QE in 5, if the coin has unusual natural and attractive color, is very prooflike, and/or displays other attributes that make it stand out in a positive way, it might transcend widgetness.

David Smiley - Apr 25, 2011  08:31 pm

Doug,

I would very much appreciate an article on copper spots and the impact
it may have on the desirability of a coin and numerical grading. Q David Bowers
writes that gold coins with copper spots are a negative. I happen to like them,
and have a 1905 QE with a few near the rim. If a gold coin has copper spots
does that mean it has not been dipped?

I look forward to your comments,
David

David Yoham - Apr 28, 2011  03:29 am

Can you explain to me what BU is? It seems alot of dealers use this term carelessly. And why is a properly graded coin called PQ ? These two terms have got me scratching my head. I thought they meant something else.
By the way, I love the look of the 1851-o $5 Liberty PCGS VF35 that you sold me . It truely was PQ. Thanks, David Yoham

DW - May 1, 2011  12:54 pm

Hi David,

BU and PQ are old tyme dealer words in describing a coin. If a dealer is using these terms, I would be careful! Both terms are not used by PCGS or NGC. Several big-time dealers use this….so watch out!

DW

ryk - May 2, 2011  12:14 pm

“What are some coins that are expensive that you feel are widgets?”

In the spirit of this site, I will stick with classic US gold

High Relief Saints
Most Stellas
Dipped, bright yellow XF/AU C + D dollars, QEs, and HEs
1904 $20′s up to and including MS-66
Most Philly classic head quarter and half eagles

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