Comments on: 12 Great Values in the Rare Date Gold Market Priced Below $5,000 Part Two: Eagles and Double Eagles http://www.raregoldcoins.com/articles/12-great-values-in-the-rare-date-gold-market-priced-below-5000-part-two-eagles-and-double-eagles Douglas Winter Numismatics Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:17:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Steve Horwitz http://www.raregoldcoins.com/articles/12-great-values-in-the-rare-date-gold-market-priced-below-5000-part-two-eagles-and-double-eagles#comment-593 Steve Horwitz Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:23:53 +0000 http://raregoldcoins.com/?p=2129#comment-593 Why don't you offer these coins? It's obvious that you like them. I'd like to see them Why don’t you offer these coins? It’s obvious that you like them. I’d like to see them

]]> By: Doug Winter http://www.raregoldcoins.com/articles/12-great-values-in-the-rare-date-gold-market-priced-below-5000-part-two-eagles-and-double-eagles#comment-562 Doug Winter Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:59:47 +0000 http://raregoldcoins.com/?p=2129#comment-562 JL: I think you are right regarding the 1854-S--I probably didn't give it the full "props" it deserves. JL:

I think you are right regarding the 1854-S–I probably didn’t give it the full “props” it deserves.

]]> By: JLRiddell http://www.raregoldcoins.com/articles/12-great-values-in-the-rare-date-gold-market-priced-below-5000-part-two-eagles-and-double-eagles#comment-554 JLRiddell Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:46:14 +0000 http://raregoldcoins.com/?p=2129#comment-554 Doug, Regarding the 1854-S Double Eagle, I actually am not sure you are doing it full service. If one excludes the shipwreck coins, including the most prominent for this date, the SS Yankee blade, this become a very rare Type 1 Double Eagle Date. The SS Republic, for example, had only 5 graded examples (all AU) recovered--less than the 7 !853-O Double Eagles recovered, to give a benchmark). The SS Yankee Blade contributed many coins from this date, but they all have a pronounced "seawater effect" that makes them less appealling, even if they are sometimes graded MS. As we know, there was no census from the SS Yankee Blade, and thus no coins can rightly have that proper designation. Since they all entered the market after the shipwreck recovery in the late 70's, it would be safe to assume that the census before that date is an accurate representation of the non-shipwreck coins, and thus the rarity. I believe it is the rarest "S" mint Type 1 Double Eagle other than the Paquet and the 1866-S no motto? No doubt it is a special and under-recognized date for an original Type 1 Double Eagle. I also love the Philedelphia dates mentioned. They sure are hard, almost impossible in some cases (e.g. 1859), to find in MS. Doug,

Regarding the 1854-S Double Eagle, I actually am not sure you are doing it full service. If one excludes the shipwreck coins, including the most prominent for this date, the SS Yankee blade, this become a very rare Type 1 Double Eagle Date. The SS Republic, for example, had only 5 graded examples (all AU) recovered–less than the 7 !853-O Double Eagles recovered, to give a benchmark). The SS Yankee Blade contributed many coins from this date, but they all have a pronounced “seawater effect” that makes them less appealling, even if they are sometimes graded MS. As we know, there was no census from the SS Yankee Blade, and thus no coins can rightly have that proper designation. Since they all entered the market after the shipwreck recovery in the late 70′s, it would be safe to assume that the census before that date is an accurate representation of the non-shipwreck coins, and thus the rarity. I believe it is the rarest “S” mint Type 1 Double Eagle other than the Paquet and the 1866-S no motto? No doubt it is a special and under-recognized date for an original Type 1 Double Eagle.

I also love the Philedelphia dates mentioned. They sure are hard, almost impossible in some cases (e.g. 1859), to find in MS.

]]> By: RYK http://www.raregoldcoins.com/articles/12-great-values-in-the-rare-date-gold-market-priced-below-5000-part-two-eagles-and-double-eagles#comment-553 RYK Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:13:34 +0000 http://raregoldcoins.com/?p=2129#comment-553 I think I have read some of these choices elsewhere before. ;) I liked the way that you added at least one choice from every type, with the notable exception of the uniformly overvalued early $10's. I agree with all selections as relatively under-the-radar better value coins, but I am not sure that the price guides are anywhere close on some of this material. For example, there are two 54-S $20's in XF currently on the market for about $6000. There is an 1838 $10 in PCGS/CAC AU-53 for $24,000 ! :o ! I would not have stopped with the 52-O and 56-O eagles. The 49-O, 56-O, and 57-O are equally as compelling. I will add the 1863, 1864-S, and 1872 eagles to my wish list, but I am not going to hold my breath for seeing them in any presentable state for under $5000. Overall, very enjoyable and good food for thought and discussion. RYK I think I have read some of these choices elsewhere before. ;) I liked the way that you added at least one choice from every type, with the notable exception of the uniformly overvalued early $10′s.

I agree with all selections as relatively under-the-radar better value coins, but I am not sure that the price guides are anywhere close on some of this material. For example, there are two 54-S $20′s in XF currently on the market for about $6000. There is an 1838 $10 in PCGS/CAC AU-53 for $24,000 ! :o !

I would not have stopped with the 52-O and 56-O eagles. The 49-O, 56-O, and 57-O are equally as compelling.

I will add the 1863, 1864-S, and 1872 eagles to my wish list, but I am not going to hold my breath for seeing them in any presentable state for under $5000.

Overall, very enjoyable and good food for thought and discussion.

RYK

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